Ellington parent connection isnt a job get on with ur life. No one cares what you have to say....

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-Erin

Alright Debbie, you know none of the facts of the night, so keep your date rape comments to yourself. And i agree with your last statement, because it is unfair to the girls who have to go thru that, but this is not one of the cases. What they never show you in the news is the girls who abuse the "date rape" claim, with false accusations. How come these girls dont get the headline of " Girls destroy two boys reputation with lies"? I bet you never thought of that side, did you? These two kids are 100% innocent, and have been thru hell, because of stupid comments like yours. So how about you think, before you post something you know nothing about. AND IM OUT!!! PEACE SON!!!!!!! KEEP IT SLEEZY!!!!

I am happy that Erin is doing her best to post the other side, and save these boys reputation. I thank you for that :)

While I appreciate the kind words, I'm not trying to save reputations, just trying to post all the facts and updates on the story - whatever the truth and outcome of the case may be. -Erin

Yes, your right "save" wasn't the right choice in words. The facts will be helpful enough to rebuild their reputation alone.

I thought that it was " innocent until proven guilty", not guilty when accused or charged! Because if the latter statement is correct then I find the person who made the first post to be guilty of bias, ignorance and stupidity! Maybe some people should " Rise Above" making pre-judgmental statements about this situation until all the facts are out and have been heard! 

My comment was specifically about a generalized statement a lawyer said about what happens innocently on college campuses weekend after weekend year after year. I wasn't even talking about the people charged with the assault. It was the lawyer's quote. I could have hidden behind an anonymous name too.

What is so bad about what is happening “innocently on college campuses weekend after weekend and year after year”? Yes, there are the undoubtedly tragic cases of students being sexually assaulted, but this is by no means the norm, and these definitely are not the innocent activities that the lawyer was referring to. Like the lawyer said, this is a case of “two young people experimenting with life, and nothing more”. Two young people experimenting in college certainly is not a crime, and it most definitely is not “date rape”. Let’s hope that justice is brought to the two young men wrongfully accused.

Thanks Tyler for identifying yourself. I will remove my comments.

Kudos to Mr. Cleverdon for getting Ms. Stauffer to remove her irresponsible comments! I find it funny that she said that her only motivation was to comment on statements from a lawyer. It seems that her interpretation of the lawyers comments was that date rapes occur numerous times on college campus' and that is the norm. When if she would have just got off her high horse, she might have realized that just maybe this lawyer was trying to say that consensual sex and sex acts occur between college students numerous times every day, of every year and that he is going to prove that this is what happened with his client. This is what happens when unrighteous people feel the need to comment on everything they read or hear about. If she felt the need to address the serious issue of date rape then she should have wrote her own article about that topic and not tied it in with this article! I only hope that if and when these young men are found innocent, she will be just as quick to write about how false rape and date rape accusations can be as severely devastating on the accused, as a rape can be on its victim, and the effects it has on them and their families!

First of all, this just proves that no good can come from underage drinking, or drinking too much at any age for that matter.
Second of all, this is ridiculous. And by "this," I mean the comments to this article. Anyone is allowed to respond to any article with their opinions, but in responsible ways. Debbie merely stated her opinion and is getting attacked for it. How about you boys be mature and respond in a mature argumentative way instead of acting like teenagers and saying unrelated, hurtful things. How can you say that she has "none of the facts" when she has just the same amount of everyone else and is putting her opinion towards it? And yet, while you are all immaturely attacking her, she's still being the mature one. And how about you take your own advice and think before you judge. In case you didn't notice, Debbie was commenting on what the LAWYER said. The lawyer made it seem like it was no big deal when it really is. The way the lawyer put it was that this is the "norm." Like anyone else who's passionate about what they believe in, Debbie was just standing up to it. She wasn't even talking about the people charged with the assault! So how about you, again, "get your facts right" before wrongly accusing her.
And how come Patch hasn't done anything about this? These comments are inappropriate and oppressive. Clearly the terms of use haven't been remembered.
Oh and Tyler Cleverdon? You ARE hiding behind an anonymous name. Just saying.

I just find it funny how many disrespectful people are in this town. It just sucks that the people that try to be the change get the most crap for it. I got your back Debbie.

Ok Anonymous, I was there the night of the incident, and know the facts of what happened. I also got facts from people who were also there so, before u do the same as debbie, think before you speak. Your doing the same exact thing we are, by commenting on the topic, and calling people out for it, so dont think you are anything special. Look at the name you commented under, I at least said who i was when the topic started getting heated. So why dont you do the same a debbie and leave this page that you know nothing about. I can at least respect the fact the debbie apoligized and took her post down. But you still prying at this just proves my point that people who dont know anything about the topic shouldnt respond. These kids are innocent until proven guilty. So to make comments about date rape, is a little premature. So anonymous, in hindsight you are no better than me or anyone else who commented on this. Please dont call my name out again, bc i am only voicing my opinion on someone who is a good friend of mine, and doesnt deserve your disrespect. So if you would like to email me at ynwa158@gmail.com you are more then welcome to talk about the subject with me, but if not, then keep your opinions to yourself.

This thread is out of control. Stop the personal accusations. This is sad for all involved; the boys the girls, the friends, the families. No young kids should have to go through any of this. Let it be.

I find it disrespectful that a few self centered people feel the need to "change" people who have not asked for, don't want or don't need their "change". Ms. Stauffer was not just stating an opinion, she assumed that she knew what the thoughts and intentions of a lawyer was, because of a statement he made to a reporter. Well it is just as irresponsible for Ms. Stauffer to assume that she knew what the lawyers intentions and thoughts were, as it is for you to assume that underage drinking had any play in this matter at all! Unless of course you have blood alcohol test to prove differently! For Ms. Stauffers to assume that by the lawyers statement and how it was portrayed in a news article, she felt he was saying that date rape "happens innocently on college campuses weekend after weekend year after year", is just wrong! She has no right to assume she knew what the lawyers thoughts or intentions were at all! At no point did the lawyer condone rape. Furthermore for you to say that the "lawyer made it seem like it was no big deal" is also wrong! A reporter wrote that article and not the lawyer. So if you want to say that the reporter made it seem like the lawyer felt a certain way, maybe, but here again that would only be the reporters opinion not fact. And here is where FACT is important. The FACTS are what this case will be judged on, not opinions.

It is a FACT that rape and date rape are big problems! But it is also a FACT that innocent people are accused of crimes all the time! It is also a FACT that these young men have a right to their statements, just like you and I have the right to ours (freedom of speech). But the most important FACT of all is that, only two people know the true FACTS of what happened and hopefully the truth will prevail in the end!

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Megan

There are an awful lot of "personal attacks", Megan. Please consider removing the comments. They are hurtful and certainly do not help the case in any way nor do they really reflect on the article. Out of control.

OK, this has gone around and around long enough. Either move the conversation forward or I'm going to shut down the comment thread. Thanks.
Megan